Unpacking Our Conversation With a Former DOGE Staffer

Vittoria Eliot: And the last signal of everything you have noted. Obviously, if you are a government worker, there are rules for maintaining a record around government work. Someone ever talked to you, “Hey, you need to archive these messages. Hey, you need to save these email hey hey, you can’t wipe it.” Has anyone discussed any legal obligation with you for your work on the day?

Sahil Livingia: No No There was never any dog ​​or boarding. So, talking to the press, not talking to the press, taking pictures, taking pictures, expressing everything you have done to someone. And yes, nothing about the archive, maintaining the record. This was just done in the signal, and it was never reported, “this is why we use the signal, for example.” It was just as “Steven is about to call you at the signal,” and it’s about it.

Vittoria Eliot: And many of the dog engineers have been appointed to multiple agencies. Have you ever been employed in any agency other than VA, and why did you think why there were so many dog ​​engineers across multiple agencies together?

Sahil Livingia: Yes, I wasn’t. I was appointed to VA, and I never got the details, I think the word is detailed to another agency. My feeling is that people were less engineers in Dog than what they thought. Was 10 or less. And so I think that how many people they actually can actually do … If they have 500 engineers, they don’t have to do it, but I think they only had very little, and especially so low that they believed. I think this is probably the discrimination and this was the idea that if you joined in the post-north, you were seen as a more external contributor volunteer. And if you joined the pre-work, you were taken a little more seriously, my assumptions, and to build beliefs with Steve and Elon, so I think they only believed in a very small person, so they only need to run to the same group and go from agency to agency.

Vittoria Eliot: Get it You were probably giving the sensitive data touching it, there was any control that was established? Did anyone sit down and said, “You are about to touch a bunch of sensitive things you are not allowed to do so” “Did you understand how to handle this data, how it is safely secured, how people can return to the private sector that it was used for their own benefits, my idea, my idea, my idea, my idea, my idea, my idea.

Sahil Livingia: Yes There was nothing to do with the scorpion around it, but was there. I think it depends on the agency and the agencies all have their own protocol that they follow. And in the VA we had some information that they said, “If you want access to it, you need to go through these two-hour course online where you are going through a bunch of tests and say that you may be able to be able to be able to be able to understand the risks.” However in terms of HR data, I have been able to get access to all HR data, not all agreements … I don’t have to sign something or say anything that I have agreed to share with the public or do anything like that. This is a kind of lies. Although I was surprised. I mean, I was … I asked them once. I was like, “I like that how many people have access to HR data?” And they are like that, “basically everyone of HR”. I like, “You know that everyone has a social security number in this data there is 473,000 social security numbers” “” And they like, “Yes, thousands of people have access to it” “I was,” This is a kind of strange. ” And I think the government can improve these controls and improve them. There was a time where I got access to this thing called CDW, where I think the corporate data refers to the warehouse, which effectively was in the CDW of VA and they withdrew my access a few hours later when they realized that they gave me access and they originally, “Dood, why did you give it?” And they were like, “Well, he is the senior adviser to the Chief of Staff that is that … and our protocol should be given all the data access when you wanted it” ” However, follow your own process i’m I’m not asking you to do something different. “